Do you think your life would have been better in another era? (37)

1 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-11 14:02 [Del]

There are a lot of arguments that can be made about this being the one of the best or worst times for us to be alive, and some think they would have been better off in a previous era. But let's say you were born and raised some time before the 1900s (setting of your choice), would it have made a difference? Do you think you would have ended up with a [more] happy or normal life with a wife and kids, or do you feel that you would have ended up as an undesirable or outcast? Maybe somewhere in-between? Explanations encouraged.

2 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-11 14:03 [Del]

No.

3 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-11 14:10 [Del]

To respond to the title question as posed if we count an imagined future, then yes, I believe my life would be better with all the things the future would bring from virtual reality and AI and all that stuff, regardless of how developed if it was better than what we had now it would almost definitely have improved my life as it is now.

As for living in the past it's very questionable if I would even be a similar person. In the future I can imagine that my life would have developed more or less the same as many things that were crucial for my development (such as video games, TV, and widespread availability of books and other escapism) will still exist then. In the past I will have not have had access to most of that stuff. So it stands to reason I would be an entirely different person. I am not sure if in that case my life could be said to be better truly or not, but I find it likely that I would have become more "normal" as there was no real other way to be back then for most people. The tighter nit of society in the past, combined with lack of alternative outlets would probably have pushed me into a life such as that.

At least that's what a little thinking about the matter leads me to believe.

4 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-11 21:37 [Del]

I would have been dead at age 13 or maybe even younger before the 1900s because I have many health problems that would have been fatal without modern medicine.

So to answer your question, yes, my life would have been better.

5 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-12 01:02 [Del]

>>4
I'm in a similar boat, however the condition's I was born with wouldn't have killed me in a different time, but my life would have been completely fucked over. So no, my life would have sucked more.

6 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-12 04:19 [Del]

This era is the era where if you are born you have the highest chance of having a decent life.
Sure the ratio is like 1 billion people in developed countries vs 8 billion in shitholes, but that's a 1 in 9 chance of having a more or less decent life. Even a hundred years ago that was more like 1 in 50.
Middle ages it was like 1 in 500.

It might be better in the future, but trends are not looking that way. Wealth inequality started rising again in the 1970s and the future looks pretty grim. Smaller amounts of wealth are being shared by more and more people, and even though increased efficiency and productivity means that this small amount of wealth goes further, it's incredibly unstable to changes in economic conditions. Climate change (regardless as to whether it's caused by man or not, natural cycles happen too) or anything affecting crop yields, or anything affecting the price of food (including fossil fuels, the food has to be transported around and petrochemicals are the source of fertilisers too) become harder and harder to cope with the less of a buffer there is.
Food is cheap right now and for that I'm glad. Unfortunately, people still insist on wasting money on nutritionless garbage just because it fills their stomachs.

7 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-12 09:05 [Del]

I have difficulty with questions like this because who I am is a product of genetics and environment and so I could not exist in another era. What should remain unchanged and what should change in this thought experiment? On the one hand, I would have died from an illness early in my childhood, but on the other hand, I might not have gotten it were I born in another time and place. But the idea of ''me'' being born in another time and place is just inconceivable to me, because I don't think I'm some "self" that just happens to inhabit this person who I am, I ''am'' this person, by necessity. The word "I" obscures this fact and tricks us into thinking that it names an immaterial self, but really it's just an indexical which refers to the person who says it. So, the meaning of the sentence "I am X" (where X is my name) is really just "X is X". So really, the question "What if I were someone else?" is incoherent, because really it means "What if X wasn't X?"

Sorry that this is slightly off-topic, the question you pose is interesting, but whenever I try to entertain these thoughts (and I used to a lot) I run into these difficulties, which in a sense have been good because I am less concerned with whether I could have been born some other time and less bothered by the innumerable contingencies which surround my existence.

8 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-12 09:58 [Del]

In medieval times my life might be technically worse. But I'd probably be happier. I'd have enough money to get by, not much to waste money on so I wouldn't feel too poor, and I'd be religious.

9 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-12 14:43 [Del]

>>7
I feel a similar way about the topic. Sometimes I see people here say they think their life would be better had it not been for technology and modern society, so I just wanted to try to gauge how many people felt that way, and if they have reasons they feel that way.

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11 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-13 19:02 [Del]

I would've died before I was born if I was born more than a hundred years earlier, now if being born farther in the future would be better

12 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-13 19:39 [Del]

My life would have been a lot different if I were born in a different household.

I don't need a different era. Just a different place would have been enough to avoid most of my problems.

13 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-14 05:31 [Del]

>>8 I would have liked to live in Medieval Time, somewhere in Northern Italy.

14 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-14 07:42 [Del]

>>13
So you enjoy backbreaking farm labour and dying at 35?

15 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-14 13:08 [Del]

Not exactly the previous era but, If I was born like 7 years earlier:

  • My dad would have been alive until atleast my 18th birthday, thus making it impossible for social workers to have me institutionalized.
  • Actual freedom from 10-18 age.
  • I would have been more familiar with computers and programming, possibly even have alot of knowledge of the linux kernel.
  • My life wouldn't have been horrible.
  • I wouldn't have brainfog/mindfog.
  • Assuming I would have been born with the same genetic configuration, eventually my autism would have been diagnosed and I would receive lifelong autismbux even if laws would change, meaning no money issues at all and a fallback option should I have failed college.
  • A chance of being a normie thus resulting in me being a blue pilled who has no idea of how bad the world actually is. (I don't consider this good but it's one of the things that could've happened.)

It's interesting for me to know how good my life could have been if I was born in the late 80s/early 90s.

16 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-17 08:23 [Del]

Change era to an entirely different universe and probably.

17 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-17 11:05 [Del]

People don't realize what an amazing time we are living in.
This is the first time ever in the existence of the universe that the human race is united (and it is).
Genetic engineering has actually been actualized.
Pointless social dominance and other social cancerous behaviors are actually frowned upon at large, although it still is being done.
It's finally possible to actually live in solitude, without the need for others.
All our basic needs can finally be satisfied, such as the need for sex (not PERSONAL sex but pornography, dolls, etc.), need for comfort, food, etc.
This is the "end times" according to the three great world religions, which either means that it is really the end of the world or at least the end of all the three great world religions (and we know which is which).

In other words, I am extremely happy to be alive today. I wouldn't want to live in another era, say unless of course that it turns out that the world will not reach the final stage (complete homogeneity) within my lifetime--which is unthinkable.

18 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-17 11:08 [Del]

>>14
Not him, but physical labor isn't so bad if you don't know any alternative life. It keeps you from overthinking the situation too.

19 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-18 06:56 [Del]

No.

We are living during the prime time for wizards, regardless of how awful normalfags remain to be. I GUARANTEE it'd be absolute hell for us during the 20th century or anything below that.

20 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-18 08:01 [Del]

As a Hapa I have long let my politics be guided by my hatred of white males. As long as I'm on the bottom of society, I might as well be for Equality, and dragging the Elite down closer to my level. I identified with Blacks as my allies and supported the Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam.

But now when I see that affirmative action hurts Asians more than whites. And that Blacks aren't exactly a fan of Asians either. I wonder maybe more inequality and meritocracy would be better for Asians. All this SJW equality is always in the economic field. More equality for Blacks and Browns in education and jobs, at the expense of Asian study robots. But no one would ever dream of having equality and affirmative action in basketball and dating to help Asians. So if its a brute force Darwinian competition in socializing, sex, dating and sports. Maybe there should be more meritocracy in education and economics, the one place Asian betas can actually compete. Then with their Ivy League degrees and engineering jobs, Asians would at least have the economics to compensate for their social defects. Not that Asians rise to the very top of being the CEO 1%. But they could be in the solid 5%.

I know I've made a huge deal over being Half Asian. And I'll admit its not everything. Being Asian doesn't mean you have to be friendless. Although being a mixed Asian probably gives you the highest probability of being friendless. Given the natural Asian tendency to be introverted, plus raised by an Asian mom; and then you are mixed so you don't even fit in with full Asians.

But was I doomed to be friendless ONLY because I'm Hapa? No. And I'll admit I have my own personality issues. Although I can blame that on my parents too, since its their DNA and nurture.

idk I guess my point is that not everythings black and white. I identify as someone very much on the SJW Left for racial and economic equality. But if my number one issue is the hellishness of being Asian male, then maybe more educational and economic inequality would be better.

21 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-18 18:41 [Del]

sahddap ye aul chocospike

22 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-18 21:55 [Del]

It would be far worse if I was born in the past.Future would be much better.

23 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-18 23:07 [Del]

>>14
Actually it's likely true that you had to actually work less back then than you do now, and the "35" mark is an average including infant mortality.

Of course if you get sick naturally through any of those plagues they had, or get any other disease or ailment you are right fucked, but hey it probably wouldn't be too bad of a life until then.

24 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-18 23:27 [Del]

I think I would've enjoyed myself more if I lived in a time where the internet did not exist. But then again I am black guy living in the USA. I would rather not live as an enslaved man so any time outside of the African slave trade would be nice.

25 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-22 18:55 [Del]

The 1800s were a golden age of literature and music, they must've been doing something right.

26 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-22 22:26 [Del]

I wish I could have been born in Sparta so my parents would have drowned me at birth.

27 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-23 04:30 [Del]

>>23 If you don't count the infant mortality, the average life expectancy is about the same as ours, something like 65. The idea of them having to work less is unlikely, but what is likely is that their work was more meaningful, rewarding, it was less stressful, alienating, and they had more autonomy.

28 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-23 16:56 [Del]

In a previous age (even before the 1990s)

  1. There would be no wizardchan. -
  2. The infinite knowldge on the net wouldn't be here. -

I would like to stay here for now. It's good enough because there are many social revolutions that could come up.
Also, I have little problems with normies as of now.

The anti-bullying brigade (SORRY) is trying to reduce the amount of bullying.

We have information already (in statistics) on how politics (and how America should change) should go. We have the information, and we have the information, but have yet to do anything with it - to make it nationalized. We're going to do it. We're going to achieve peace. We just need people to take the information and apply it.

There are also people ignorant enough that I can go past them intellectually and I have the ability as of now to live alone. If I were born into the future, it would be a stretch of what could happen. If I were born in the past, I would have to rebuild myself (no knowledge I have now with less technology and a different mind set for me and others).

staying here would mean I could keep my own self, understand the mind set of others, keep wizchan, and have the knowledge I have now while being able to look brightly towards the future. Hopefully...

29 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-23 17:04 [Del]

>>28
"The infinite knowldge on the net wouldn't be here."

And yet the people of our age are markedly dumber than those of the past; even the lower classes of previous eras spoke with more eloquence than ours.

30 Name: Anonymage : 2015-10-23 17:07 [Del]

>>29

Perfect, isn't it? Now we can take advantage of that or educate them. Our technology grows, but our knowledge diminishes. Ours though, we're able to take our thoughts and eloquently express them.

I will not put any historical evidence in this post because I have none of the experience or knowledge, but that's what I was mentioning on my last paragraph. I'm smart enough to stay ahead. I think not of the population much, but I think of the efficiency of it all. Educate the masses or not, I will stay smart. Educate them for personal of financial gain, then you have a reason.

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32 Name: Anonymage : 2020-04-23 08:19 [Del]

>>20
whites dont exist retard
elites arent human either you cant "pull them down" consider genocide of a different species

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35 Name: Anonymage : 2020-04-24 06:11 [Del]

>>33
america doesnt exist retard :^)
im already tired out shitposting cucksanity is vedic shitposting any good these days

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