Is the site quality in a freefall? (60)

1 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-07 13:26 [Del]

Is it just me, or has the site quality really gone down in the past month? It keeps feeling like there's nothing but new posters now. It almost feels worse than when we were getting raided non-stop because at least they were trying to LOOK like they posted here.

I'm not even talking about the meme spamming that has been going on from a small group for the whole year, I mean almost everything has gone down. /dep/ is hardly about depression. /wiz/ hasn't been supporting lengthy discussions and is now indistinguishable from /lounge/. And /games/ is looking more and more like /v/ every day.

I'm I just dumb? Am I looking at the past with a bias? Why does it feel like I cannot relate to fucking anyone on Wizardchan anymore when I could relate to almost everyone just a couple months ago? Am I just losing my goddamn mind?

11 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-08 18:57 [Del]

>>9
Wouldn't the quality of wizchan skyrocket if we turned textboard? They are very unpopular among normals and scares off all kind of unpleasant people.

12 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-08 20:56 [Del]

>>11
Agreed. But chadmin probably won't let that happen because he is a normie himself.

13 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-08 21:34 [Del]

The entire site is rapidly becoming /r9k/.

>>12
We wouldn't need to officially turn textboard, they already gave us this one. Eventually the deteriorating quality of the imageboard will force most quality users here (or off the site entirely).

14 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-08 21:38 [Del]

I keep noticing these retards on the site that go around mindlessly insulting groups of people and being very persistent about it. There's this one guy right now that's going around calling people "memechildren" and samefagging up a storm. If you try to reason with him, he just hurls insults and begins to act like everyone is his enemy. This describes that other guy that a few weeks ago when we had political shitstorms too. That faggot would just reply to people at random to call them /pol/cucktards and shit like that. It was almost hilarious to watch him spam allcaps ranting in this format. When the politics shitstorm was going on, I believe the same "/pol/cuck" guy made a long-winded post about how he was the democratic process guy, the anon that suggest we all be Anonymage and the creator of a shit ton of /meta/ threads. He said he's basically the "second admin" of wizchan. His post was deleted in a few minutes. Based on what I gather from the last few months, there are pretty much 1-3 warlocks that gain euphoria from shitting up the site, a standing /cow/ horde that still hasn't left yet and a bunch of /r9k/ refugees who came after Hiroyuki became 4chan admin and reinstalled the robot. All of these dynamic IP'd problem causers are allowed to roam free by the incompetent staff (which is composed of a former mod handpicked by anachronos and their personally chosen moderators). On top of this corruption, normal wizardchan users are leaving and not posting as much which is causing the foreign scum to rape the site even more freely. Basically wizchan.org is like multicultural London/Paris/Stockholm where people who don't usually belong there are the majority and the leaders are letting their nation burn to the ground.

15 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-09 02:04 [Del]

>>14
While I agree with you, you understand that what he calls "memechildren" are the same people we are talking about, right?
He might not be articulate in his rage, but he feels the same way you do about the decline of the site. The same /r9k/ migrants and shit are the ones spamming shit memes that have no place on this site. That is who he is mad about. You going around claiming that he is consciously going around and purposefully shitting up the site with a "euphoric grin" makes you no better than the thing you are denouncing.

16 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-09 16:01 [Del]

>>14
I also blame polfags like yourself for turning wizardchan into a huge pile of shit with all irrelevant propaganda being posted all the time. Polfags, r9kfags and cowfags belong in 4Chad or Cripplechan. Not fucking wizardchan

17 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-09 16:14 [Del]

While it saddens me greatly.
The best advice would be to not take wizchan too seriously.
It is not worth getting upset over something like this.
There are a couple posters here who are genuine.
Others are here just to bring confusion and discord.
Their laughs have been echoing for a long time now.
Inside a prison they have built themselves.
A fitting end.

It is easy to pray on the weak and lost.
While our enemy is very known.
Make no mistake about his own.
Do not let him tell you otherwise.
December is not the sakura season.
But sometimes they can be seen around here.
Bringing a soothing and calm scent.
Even easier to tell the rotting flesh apart.

18 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-09 17:52 [Del]

What do you expect the post quality of /lounge/ to be when you allow succubi porn dump threads?

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20 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-10 00:02 [Del]

>>14
You just summed up most of what is wrong with the site. It's not enemies, but people trying to find enemies who always seem to be causing the most issues. It's all hysteria and people making a group of people out to be worse than they really are, or rather claiming that certain individuals are something they are not in order to get their point across. First it was wageslaves being normies, then it was waifuists being incels, then it was anyone with views you could expect to see on /pol/ being "failed cucks". Everything is really going downhill because of those people, or that person if it's just one guy.

21 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-10 00:44 [Del]

>>20
It's pretty stupid to think it was any one thing that did it.
In all likelihood it was everything discussed in this thread and more. It's the straw that broke the camel's back.

22 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-10 08:00 [Del]

>>16
Hay guy wut are you doin here?

>>15
The type of people who get legitimately butthurt at things like daddy howard and "hello reddit" are most likely either newfags or raiders themselves. They aren't even 4kanker memes.

23 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-11 11:13 [Del]

I think being dramatic about this doesn't help anyone.

I mean just look at this thread. Almost every posted blames something different for the supposed decline in quality of Wizardchan. How can you possibly expect a consensus on what quality even means for all of us?

Some of you blame SWJs, some of you blame /r9k/ newcommers, others blame supposed raiders and /pol/tards... It comes to the point that whenever someone posts Daddy Howard, that even if his post will contain reasonable arguments, he'll just get called a memespouter or something retarded like that. Don't you see where this brings us? Just stop feeding this unhealthy paranoia and negative angry viewpoint.

If you want this website to keep going, take a different approach, and make an effort to write articulate posts, open threads, and report posts that break the rules.

24 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-12 01:24 [Del]

>>23
I agree with this. Fight negativity with positivity instead of feeding it even more negativity. Eventually, if there are more positive posts, they will outweigh the negative ones and naturally take over.

Please contribute more and abstain from angry responses.

25 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-12 06:38 [Del]

I feel as if there are multiple sources of bad posting all coming to a head recently. Increased low quality posting on /dep/, /wiz/ and even /lounge/ (if you can believe it) which has become much much more common in a short span of time. Memes and other posting which I saw very infrequently are becoming more frequent. The torrent of political tomfoolery and news articles, race and religion bating and other unsavory things, which while dying down has still been constantly humming in the background. Then there's the general trends in increasing hostility on nearly all boards whereby it feels like there is an atmosphere of undisguised animosity.

Honestly I fear for the future of this site, I honestly wonder if there will be another Christmas crash. Regardless I doubt I will be using this site much in the future. It is simply becoming less and less of a place I see any value in/

26 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-12 11:13 [Del]

>>23
>>24
Sure is 'just world' in here.
Because asking nicely has always moved mountains, yes?

I image similar discussions of this exact caliber were taken up in 4chan or other forum of discussion some years ago. How do you think that worked out for them?

27 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-12 19:17 [Del]

>>23
>>24
Most wizards ignore long posts in preference of short posts that don't require much effort to comprehend and respond to.

28 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-13 16:42 [Del]

>>26
I left 4chan because people were more focused on shitflinging for the sake of trying to feel superior to others or often "self moderation". Derailing threads just to verbally shit on somebody who failed to act the right way or say the right things is what people mean by "self moderation".

So if they did have this discussion I'm sure most of them took your stance. The ironic thing is that I'm sure it was the newfags that were so eager to partake in the communal curbstomping and spam the hot new meme of the month with their fellow 4chan bros while other people just got tired and left.

One of the largest problems is that everybody wants to shove their /meta/ concerns in peoples' face for every thread. What are people going to talk about if you remove those topics people discuss? All that leaves are the same repeat threads we have every day, which get boring after a few dozen times. I think it just comes down to the fact that most wizards don't have much to talk about, that alone is probably a reason for all the meta talk since there isn't much else to talk about.

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30 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-14 19:00 [Del]

To expand on my earlier comment.

No, i do not think they should change wizchan to text-only.

All the decent people from before are here, with some leaches from the main site.

However, if the admins were truly on our side they would close the actual site down, but keep the text up.

The actual site is too far from saving, I think the best course of action is to ban porn and try to stop the obvious r9k'ers.
After that its only a matter of waiting them out, which will take another chan to grasp their attention.

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>>28

I heavily disagree with this statement

>One of the largest problems is that everybody wants to shove their /meta/ concerns in peoples' face for every thread. What are people going to talk about if you remove those topics people discuss? All that leaves are the same repeat threads we have every day, which get boring after a few dozen times. I think it just comes down to the fact that most wizards don't have much to talk about, that alone is probably a reason for all the meta talk since there isn't much else to talk about.

Im not sure if you were here before the r9k infestation and the /cow/ infestation but it was much, much better. (If we want to go all the way back to before the GG debacle we can as well)

Wizards back in these times discussed a lot of things, and you still see some similar topics on /wiz/ and /text/ the reason /meta/ is getting so much posts is because the /cow/ people think its funny to suggest a bunch of random things.

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>>25

WizChan is growing, though that shouldnt be a bad thing, it is. I think the only thing to do now is to just let the actual board die.

The admins arent going to do anything, but if they see this and decide to do something i would suggest.

  1. removing greentext, and other obvious style choices similar to 4chan or 8chan.
  2. Removing porn images, but the discussion of porn is still allowed (links to porn also banned)
  3. Memes banned.
  4. Talk of the NEET life-style, "succubi", anything r9k or /cow/ related, and blog-style heavily monitored or out-right banned.
  5. Removal of /text/ link on main board.

These changes probably wont sit well with everyone, but I personally think those changes are the only way to keep the site from becoming r9k2.0

31 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-14 19:39 [Del]

>>30
I remember that too. My memory isn't the best but I think the largest difference is that /b/ was more carefree and it wasn't as big of an issue. Outside of that there was still the same old slow moving discussions which were nice. Repetition and nostalgia probably killed that for you now, and continuous complaints probably killed /lounge/ for you.
I'm sure some /meta/ shit is just people trying to fan the flames, but I bet a lot more is legitimate. These /cow/ folks aren't nearly as elaborate as they'd have you believe, the best they can do is follow on the coat tails of some drama Wizchan created itself.

And I'm going to reply to your last part while I'm at it. Those things would only differentiate us in appearance, there would still be [some] of the usual folks and the usual visitors who would fall in line with those new rules. You could change it into a /wiz/-only board, but that doesn't stop those other people from coming here, and it wouldn't make more wizards stay. The only thing it would do is give that illusion.

32 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-15 23:00 [Del]

I think the site needs less autistic people who have no sense of humor.

33 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-16 08:30 [Del]

>>32
I disagree, in fact the exact opposite is true.

34 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-17 09:01 [Del]

>>31

i think differentiating us in appearance (and some mechanics maybe) would heavily decrease the amount of people who come/came from r9k.

4chan is only getting more popular, thus r9k is getting more popular.

There is no hope to completely remove the r9kers or the /cow/ people, we can only try to prevent more from coming from now on.

35 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-21 23:33 [Del]

>1

To tell you the truth i've felt the change as well, i've just made a post on /meta/.

I think i can't fit in here anymore. I'm not one of those warlocks, i'm a peace loving mage who would like everyone to be fine without intrusion in everyone's lives. It seems that everyone here is turning to the warlock side now, being antinatalist is the mandatory norm, although i remember once it was only a radical position.

I don't know what i'm gonna do now. There's nowhere else out there, certainly no place on the normalfag internet, but i feel as if i am banned already for every thread being alien to me.

36 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-27 09:04 [Del]

The porn threads in /lounge/ set the bar pretty low for quality. I don't know why they don't just move it to /b/, I guess they are just too fancy for that.

37 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-28 06:29 [Del]

>>36
The fap thread has scope and etiquette, it's not a low quality thread.

38 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-28 07:14 [Del]

>>37
For the most part I agree with you, so long as it stays as it has been for most of the time. I was worried a couple of weeks back when the third simultaneous fap thread was posted. I also worry about the posts on /meta/ about the fap thread not plastering the site in porn out of courtesy and almost seeming to hold that above everybody's head as a kind of threat.

It's those sorts of things that concern me most about the direction the site is headed. There are too many duplicate threads instead of just bumping older ones and the hostility between users seems to be increasing exponentially. It might just be a culture shift rather than quality drop but it is souring my experience at least. Things aren't as comfy as I remember them being even at the beginning of the year.

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40 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-28 14:33 [Del]

Well, I'm a wizardchan regular since early 2013 and today the only boards I browse are /b/ and /hob/. I also monitorize /meta/ on a daily basis for shit and giggles. I must admit that I'm the type of guy who likes jokes and shitposting. I never take things too seriously, especially the internet and its imageboards.

41 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-29 19:51 [Del]

Is this 2ch.net software by chance?

42 Name: Anonymage : 2015-12-29 20:00 [Del]

looks fancy but will be able to post images with text?

43 Name: Anonymage : 2016-01-08 22:10 [Del]

>>42 What do you think faggot?

44 Name: Anonymage : 2016-02-02 17:50 [Del]

I didn't even know the half of it when I made this thread.
Jesus Christ.

Is there even any alternatives to this website?
And don't say Magicchan. It is just as bad with the added bonus of being slower than a snake in a blizzard.

45 Name: Anonymage : 2016-02-02 18:30 [Del]

>>40

>I never take things too seriously, especially the internet and its imageboards.

So where do you take things seriously? In your "real life"?

46 Name: Anonymage : 2016-02-02 23:36 [Del]

>>45
Perhaps he is an absurdist and takes nothing seriously?

47 Name: Anonymage : 2016-02-03 01:29 [Del]

What is so funny about /meta/ that can brighten up your humor?

48 Name: Anonymage : 2016-02-03 08:47 [Del]

I have a hard time believing anything I read here. It seems like everything is an ironic post to gather some response. I just try to stay on hob & jp. When I do post I try to write something lengthy. I also feel like I'm being stalked on here.

The super blatant post like "normal" "pol" "hapa" "jdimsa" make it very hard to endure.

49 Name: Anonymage : 2016-02-03 19:37 [Del]

>>48
I know what you mean. I only regularly contribute to two threads in total because they don't reek of the current ultra-aggressive posturing that seems to be the current fad on the site.

50 Name: Anonymage : 2016-02-04 19:49 [Del]

I only come here now because at least it won't be raided (hopefully).

51 Name: Anonymage : 2016-02-05 12:38 [Del]

People have been complaining about the "quality" since the very beginning of Wizardchan. Every damn year.

52 Name: Anonymage : 2016-02-05 22:46 [Del]

>>51
Because 95% of wizards are eternally dissatisfied retards. That is the true meaning of being a wizard.

53 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-06 09:59 [Del]

let me necropost this by saying that quality has been more or less consistent for the last year, the notable exceptions where when 4chan was down and kiwifarms talked about us (https://kiwifarms.net/search/3849477/?page=2&q=wizchan&o=relevance). I don't know at what extent this site is influenced by the former to this day.
Vale.

54 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-08 04:11 [Del]

Did you ever learn anything from your time here? I believe that when you are interested that you are more easily overlooking the awful parts of the site. I can go on the front page of /wiz/ now, putting myself in the mind of my first-time viewing of the site, and it looks a lot more impressive than my present cynical point of view.
In fact around 2015 and 2016 I recall a lot of "this has already been discussed to death" replies to threads about concepts that were discussed to death already. Demanding new content faster than wisdom can be attained is demanding for lower quality.

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56 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-28 19:30 [Del]

i think wizchad was always shit just like the meme itself

magicchan was awesome tho

57 Name: Anonymage : 2019-04-02 13:33 [Del]

>magicchan was awesome

I remember trying to decide where to go after wizardchan died and this site was obviously better

58 Name: Anonymage : 2019-04-16 11:34 [Del]

I haven't been here in a while, but I lurked through a handful of threads just now and I was disappointed at how unintelligent some users are. The way they phrase things and the things they focus on in an argument really just tell me they're retarded. It reads like they have the mental facilities of 13 year olds. I had to quit reading several threads mid way through because I couldn't bear reading the dumb shit people said.

59 Name: Anonymage : 2019-04-16 17:43 [Del]

The mental age of people comes out through real discussion. Dropping out of education and brain frog from isolation and lack of challenging mental stimulus takes its toll on people. Anonymage is mostly not smart but rather has learned self-awareness through the path of pain. Surviving hardship is a kind of achievement hence black people do have a kind of wisdom to them.

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