US has been downgraded to a 'flawed democracy' (94)

1 Name: Anonymage : 2019-01-30 12:54 [Del]

2 Name: Anonymage : 2019-01-30 23:32 [Del]

Why are you linking old news articles and not the archive.is version at that?

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8 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-01 16:08 [Del]

It's another episode where Americans act like everybody on the internet cares about their country.

It's another episode where Americans complain that their world superpower of a country is not nice enough to live in.

9 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-02 04:00 [Del]

I think this might be a Chinese bot.

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11 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-14 09:25 [Del]

it's just the final stage of capitalism
but don't worry, your second amendment will fix everything

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15 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-19 09:15 [Del]

>>13
makes sense

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18 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-28 02:51 [Del]

Has anyone noticed the elites create a problem and then offer a solution?

Oh no, people might drive drunk, let’s have checkpoints.

Oh no, there are car crashes, let’s force people to use seatbelts and buy liability car insurance.

Oh no, people get cancer, let’s ban smoking.

Oh no, ballots have hanging chads, let’s have electronic voting machines.

Oh no, terrorists attacked the WTC, let’s have TSA groping, CIA torture, kill lists, and NSA wiretapping.

Oh no, Saddam has weapons of mass destruction, let’s invade Iraq.

Oh no, someone peed outside, let’s have sex offender registration laws.

Oh no, bankers committed fraud and ruined the economy, let’s have bailouts.

Oh no, businesses are dangerous, let’s regulate them.

Oh no, regulations and debt have suffocated the economy, let’s have food stamps and start a trade war.

Oh no, healthcare is expensive, let’s have Obamacare.

Oh no, the Internet is slow, let’s have more laws.

Oh no, the police are killing black people, let’s have cop cameras.

Oh no, your phone might be stolen, let’s have kill switches.

Oh no, someone shot people, let’s ban guns.

Oh no, immigrants are buying mobile phones, let’s ban prepaid phones.

Oh no, someone called someone a bad word, let’s crackdown on free speech.

Oh no, a junkie bought drugs, let’s ban cash and kill drug users.

Oh no, a terrorist bought a clock with a debit card, let’s ban anonymous debit cards.

Oh no, we started wars, let’s import refugees.

Oh no, Muslims have encrypted mobile phones, let’s ban encryption.

Oh no, Russia and China are large countries that might oppose the NWO of debt, bombing Iran, illegal immigration, immorality, homosexuality, and feminism, let’s increase the military budget.

Oh no, the US has too many illegal immigrants, let’s build a wall.

Oh no, Russia is releasing propaganda, let’s ban free speech.

Oh no, Russia is hacking voting machines, let’s allow DHS to control the elections.

Oh no, the 99% are unhappy about tyranny, let’s ban protesting.

Oh no, George Washington owned slaves, let’s tear down statues.

Oh no, we started a War on Terror and a War on Drugs, let’s militarize the police.

Oh no, prostitution exists, let’s ban free speech.

Oh no, someone killed someone, let’s ban video games.

Oh no, homes are dirty, let's ban home-schooling.

Think.

19 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-28 16:54 [Del]

Oh no, someone made a comfy slow textboard, let's shit it up with /pol/ propaganda like everywhere else.

20 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-28 23:07 [Del]

>>19
It's a bot.

21 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-01 13:14 [Del]

Strange how bots are only online 12 hours a day and take long breaks to work, rest, eat, and call friends.

22 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-01 17:51 [Del]

>>20
If it's a bot, do what's usual for dealing with bots, that is delete it, permaban its range, send the provider's abuse contact a complaint, and prepare a log for a lawsuit if they continue.

23 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-02 01:14 [Del]

Americans have gone insane.

The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state.

The default American response to the US collapse is to ignore the decay, excuse government abuse, attack the messengers who warn of the dangers of tyranny, and to blame everyone else except themselves for the decline.

Americans are ignoring the obvious collapse of the US by sticking their heads in the sand and focusing instead on bread and circuses, celebrities, sports, movies, music, alcohol, drugs, and sex.

Americans don't care about government corruption and scandals.

Americans will vehemently attack anyone who dares criticize their beloved government overlords by shouting "fake news!" or calling patriots spammers, trolls, shills, bots, racists, junkies, retards, or nutjobs and demanding that the truth-tellers be censored, banned, get IRS audits, be arrested, or be killed.

Americans quickly blame China, Russia, libtards, Bush, Obama, homosexuals, Communists, Nazis, blacks, atheists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, feminists, baby boomers, or illegal immigrants for the fall of the USA, but if Americans really want to know who is responsible, they just need to look in the mirror.

Americans say Churchill, FDR, Stalin, LBJ, Putin, Merkel, and Hitler are Jews, no one died during WWII, white people never owned slaves, Communists never killed anyone, the Bill of Rights was repealed by the Organic Act of 1872, and Freemasons control the world, but they never offer any proof. Anyone who does provide opposing evidence will be told their source is unreliable.

Americans say increasing the national debt decreases it.

Americans say food stamps are freedom.

Americans say war is peace.

Americans say tyranny is the American way.

The collapse of the US is shocking and disgusting.

How can Americans sleep at night now?

Every country has the government it deserves.

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28 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-24 00:40 [Del]

The future looks black.

The US is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state now.

Churches are corrupt.

The schools are corrupt.

The media tells lies.

Medicine is dangerous.

Robots will be taking the jobs soon.

The USA is no longer a democracy. The government and the illegal aliens don't obey the law.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jimmy-carter-u-s-is-an-oligarchy-with-unlimited-political-bribery-63262/

Clapper lied to Congress and nothing happened.

The IRS targeted conservatives and nothing happened.

Clinton broke the law and nothing happened.

The CIA spied on Congress and nothing happened.

Police kill unarmed Americans with impunity.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have free speech, but free speech is illegal.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have religious freedom, but they have no religious freedom.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have gun rights, but guns are illegal.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have freedom from warrantless searches, but there is NSA wiretapping.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have freedom from seizures, but there is asset forfeiture.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have freedom from torture, but the government tortures.

Most everyone under 50 will see the US collapse in their lifetimes.

There is no hope, but do what you can to plan and prepare for the collapse.

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30 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-27 11:10 [Del]

How do Americans deal with hypocrisy today?

You might live in a warm place and own a new car listening to good music with an excellent stereo after you ate a delicious dinner and feel pretty good about living in a free country, but how does being tracked and wiretapped 24/7 feel?

Americans may feel like they are good people even when they commit three felonies a day just by existing.

How do Americans justify paying taxes when their taxes fund rising debt, Obamacare, food stamps, regulations, US wars, illegal immigrants, nanny state laws, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, chain gangs, boot camps, and Jade Helm?

Americans might feel like they live in a moral country, but how can a nation that tortures and launches endless wars take the moral high ground on anything?

How could Americans not feel responsible for US wars, debt, and tyranny?

How would the founding fathers think about the collapse of the USA?

The American default reaction to hard facts seems to be to not think and to silence those who speak the truth, but facts don't cease to exist because they are ignored.

Future generations will ask why Americans didn't resist when the US became a police state.

One thing worse than learning that you live in a police state is finding out that no one cares.

The only realistic option left for a moral American seems to be to renounce your citizenship.

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32 Name: Anonymage : 2019-11-07 06:47 [Del]

Was America flawless before, or was it a superdemocracy?

33 Name: Anonymage : 2019-11-18 17:59 [Del]

Americans used to believe in freedom.

http://www.naplesnews.com/story/opinion/contributors/2017/07/01/commentary-land-free-and-home-brave/427082001/

Now Americans would need to be mentally ill to think tyranny won’t get worse.

Who would have thought in 1980 that the USA would soon have curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm?

During the Wild West in the US, everyone could carry guns, businesses were not licensed, no one had Social Security numbers, there were no sales, income, or property taxes, and drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, and prostitution were legal.

There was little government, yet people lived and had freedom.

http://www.harrybrowne.com/GLO/DrugWar.htm

The government today is regulating every area of everyone’s life.

The government wants to tell us what to do, what to think, where to live, how to live, what to wear, and what to eat. Saying you live in a free country with a straight face is difficult when everything is illegal.

How can anyone take the moral high ground on anything when we are all criminals?

In the US, your body is not your body, your property is not your property, and your kid is not your kid.

Government is not the solution to problems. Government IS the problem.

Alcohol prohibition failed. The Soviet Union failed.

http://www.bradford-delong.com/2008/02/why-the-soviet.html

Anyone who supports the police state is just a tool for the elites.

Too bad Americans are surrendering liberty so easily.

Why did the USA fight for freedom against the British, Hitler, and Saddam if America just ended up as a police state? All those American soldiers died in vain.

The elites are trying to weaken and divide Americans by race, gender, handicap, penalizing hard work, encouraging welfare use, and pushing immorality while using fear, terrorism, drugs, false flags, discrimination, hate speech, Russian propaganda, and fake news laws, and wars on cash to make Americans give up their free speech rights, religious freedom, guns, right to silence, privacy, property, right to trials, freedom from torture, and the freedom from extrajudicial assassination.

https://fee.org/articles/the-growth-of-government-in-america/

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Wake up.

Think.

Pass the word.

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35 Name: Anonymage : 2019-12-19 23:42 [Del]

oh, so it looks like this is the only thread that's not locked so the faggot mod must be this homo who keeps spamming about America. I guess this whole site is probably run by the Russians. That would make sense.

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38 Name: Anonymage : 2019-12-20 06:05 [Del]

It always seems to come down to "freedom and basic human rights," but I've found those concepts to be very vague and inconcrete. They can be applied to mean just about anything. Ignoring the intangible idealisms of it all, the tangible effects of democracy are far less appealing to me. These effects are,

Democracy lacks of any form of long term planning. As soon as a new administration takes over, the plans and promises of the previous administration are abandoned. Any agreements made between the previous administration and any foreign power are also put at risk, as all parties seem to like to scrap the work of their opposition out of spite, alone. Besides being counter productive, it's also just downright insulting to other nations who find themselves betrayed by a sudden cancelling of a deal which the new administration no longer feels themselves beholden to.

Democracy is divisive. Talk to anyone who supports any party and they will gladly tell you all the reasons why they think their country would be prospering if all for the influence of their dreaded opposition. They all dream for the collapse of their opponents, but ironically, the existence of opposing political parties is the very foundation of democracy. People scream for democracy as they undermine the very system that makes it democratic.

Democracies empower the ignorant. It's sad, but true. Fact is, while we all deserve equal rights, we're not all worthy of equal responsibility. Some people are just idiots. Rather than holding morons to the same standard as the enlightened, a meritocratic system should be put in place as to empower the capable over the popular. A system such as China's.

Since democracy empowers the popular over the proficient, a lot of dangerously deluded people get into power. The separation of church and state crumbles, and superstitious nutjobs take hold of the country. Secularism can find no haven, and science becomes a political tool. Religion rules over all. Just look at the Hong Kong protestors, they're practically proclaiming divine mandate.

Considering how democracy has turned politics into a circus show and driven statecraft into the ground, I can hardly see why anyone would find it desirable. The idealisism of it is just that, idealism, and nothing more. The only people who benefit from the system are the demagogues, and I believe that it is these demagogues who have ensured that democracy is enshrined and kept sacred such that even questioning it's effectiveness has become taboo. This fear against questioning is also ironic, as the ability to freely question is one of the values upon which democracy is supposedly founded and one of the reasons why people claim it to be superior to the alternatives.

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40 Name: Anonymage : 2019-12-22 18:39 [Del]

It always seems to come down to "freedom and basic human rights," but I've found those concepts to be very vague and inconcrete. They can be applied to mean just about anything. Ignoring the intangible idealisms of it all, the tangible effects of democracy are far less appealing to me. These effects are,

Democracy lacks of any form of long term planning. As soon as a new administration takes over, the plans and promises of the previous administration are abandoned. Any agreements made between the previous administration and any foreign power are also put at risk, as all parties seem to like to scrap the work of their opposition out of spite, alone. Besides being counter productive, it's also just downright insulting to other nations who find themselves betrayed by a sudden cancelling of a deal which the new administration no longer feels themselves beholden to.

Democracy is divisive. Talk to anyone who supports any party and they will gladly tell you all the reasons why they think their country would be prospering if all for the influence of their dreaded opposition. They all dream for the collapse of their opponents, but ironically, the existence of opposing political parties is the very foundation of democracy. People scream for democracy as they undermine the very system that makes it democratic.

Democracies empower the ignorant. It's sad, but true. Fact is, while we all deserve equal rights, we're not all worthy of equal responsibility. Some people are just idiots. Rather than holding morons to the same standard as the enlightened, a meritocratic system should be put in place as to empower the capable over the popular. A system such as China's.

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65 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-10 08:17 [Del]

Wow.

The US is now a police state where everything is illegal and Americans have no rights.

The 1% could confiscate guns and order Americans to go to the concentration camps tomorrow, but the ruling class do not have the manpower and the camps have not built yet.

The elites seem to prefer to slowly kill every possible bit of freedom.

Yesterday bump stocks were banned, today silencers will be banned, and pistols will be outlawed tomorrow.

Not only are the ruling powers determined to kill off the 99%, Americans are embracing their slavery with glee.

The media screams the USA must bomb Iran and Americans clap with delight.

The elites say debt doesn't matter and Americans agree.

Trump could decree that every American get their thumbs chopped off with machetes and Americans would jump with joy.

Have Americans ever read a history book?

Americans today could either be a zombie and willing accomplice to US wars, debt, and tyranny and remain silent, attack the government, or look for a way to escape.

What kind of life do you have now when you must lie to your wife about your plans because you're afraid the NSA will hear you on her mobile phone?

Americans need to go hardcore about resisting the police state now.

Increase your privacy and become anonymous.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/10/7-privacy-tools-essential-making-citizenfour

Use gold, cash, and barter.

Avoid taxes.

Research buying a boat, submarine, or an island.

Try to avoid security cameras, license plate readers, and redlight cameras.

Americans really should try to live like the Amish or a primitive tribe in the Amazon or Vietnam.

Once you have a SSN and a name and the government has your fingerprints and DNA, the elites know who to look for when they launch their final solution against the 99%.

Do you think the ruling class will be able kick the debt can down the road for another 2, 5, 10, or 30 years?

https://www.forgottentribes.com/blogs/lifestyle/hmong-fashion-the-people-their-history-and-their-textile-legacy

66 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-16 13:37 [Del]

so long as we can fart we are free

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68 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-16 20:16 [Del]

yes trumps a retard

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90 Name: Anonymage : 2020-03-15 16:12 [Del]

The ruling class uses facial recognition, voice recognition, fingerprints, DNA, heartbeat monitors, and cameras to track Americans because everybody is different, but the elites want everyone to be the same and embrace global warming, the nanny state, illegal immigration, welfare, wars, abortion, gun control, censorship, immorality, warrantless searches, forfeiture, torture, and debt.

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