US has been downgraded to a 'flawed democracy' (79)

1 Name: Anonymage : 2019-01-30 12:54 [Del]

2 Name: Anonymage : 2019-01-30 23:32 [Del]

Why are you linking old news articles and not the archive.is version at that?

3 Name: Anonymage : 2019-01-31 01:35 [Del]

Americans insist that they live in a free country and just shrug when they are given overwhelming proof that the US is a police state.

5 Name: Anonymage : 2019-01-31 05:07 [Del]

Tyranny didn't work out too well for the USSR, Nazi Germany, and Cambodia so why are Americans embracing it?

6 Name: Anonymage : 2019-01-31 16:58 [Del]

Welcome to the land of the free.

7 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-01 13:21 [Del]

Some Americans may have thought that tyranny would never come to the US because the rich, celebrities, media, politicians, and American people would resist.

Who would have thought that the rich would loot the country by getting bailouts and subsidies while being the ones conspiring and building the police state by paying actors, singers, and atheletes to distract Americans with bread and circuses, using reporters to push propaganda, real crises, and false flags, and buying off and corrupting politicians with campaign donations and cushy job promises to start wars, import refugees that weaken and divide the US, drive up the debt, make laws that enslave Americans, and throw crumbs to pacify the 99% in the form of food stamps, Obamacare, Obamaphones, and public housing?

The destruction of the USA is nearly complete.

8 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-01 16:08 [Del]

It's another episode where Americans act like everybody on the internet cares about their country.

It's another episode where Americans complain that their world superpower of a country is not nice enough to live in.

9 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-02 04:00 [Del]

I think this might be a Chinese bot.

10 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-08 13:26 [Del]

One of the reasons the US is collapsing now is that Americans think that decay will be stopped by becoming Fascists and Communists.

Americans think the US will be improved by expanding wars, increasing the debt, and adding more tyranny when the reason the USA is crashing is because the US has wars, is in debt, and has a police state.

Americans say that they love freedom, but then they turn around and say they need the government to give them free Obamacare, build a wall, protect the US from Yemen, wiretap their phones, arrest people for feeding the homeless, stop farmers from plowing fields, force people to get rid of dogs, ban vaping, and torture suspects.

Every country has the government it deserves.

11 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-14 09:25 [Del]

it's just the final stage of capitalism
but don't worry, your second amendment will fix everything

12 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-17 09:31 [Del]

Freedom, once lost, is lost forvever.

13 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-17 10:10 [Del]

Socialists want Communism to destroy Capitalism, but what if the elites are pushing Socialism to kill off the 99%?

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15 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-19 09:15 [Del]

>>13
makes sense

16 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-20 05:01 [Del]

The US is a police state now. Americans should be out in the streets with pitchforks and torches, but instead they would rather shut up, cover their ears, and put their heads in the sand.

Weird.

17 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-26 02:18 [Del]

Tyranny didn't work out too well for the USSR, Nazi Germany, and Cambodia so why are Americans embracing it?

18 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-28 02:51 [Del]

Has anyone noticed the elites create a problem and then offer a solution?

Oh no, people might drive drunk, let’s have checkpoints.

Oh no, there are car crashes, let’s force people to use seatbelts and buy liability car insurance.

Oh no, people get cancer, let’s ban smoking.

Oh no, ballots have hanging chads, let’s have electronic voting machines.

Oh no, terrorists attacked the WTC, let’s have TSA groping, CIA torture, kill lists, and NSA wiretapping.

Oh no, Saddam has weapons of mass destruction, let’s invade Iraq.

Oh no, someone peed outside, let’s have sex offender registration laws.

Oh no, bankers committed fraud and ruined the economy, let’s have bailouts.

Oh no, businesses are dangerous, let’s regulate them.

Oh no, regulations and debt have suffocated the economy, let’s have food stamps and start a trade war.

Oh no, healthcare is expensive, let’s have Obamacare.

Oh no, the Internet is slow, let’s have more laws.

Oh no, the police are killing black people, let’s have cop cameras.

Oh no, your phone might be stolen, let’s have kill switches.

Oh no, someone shot people, let’s ban guns.

Oh no, immigrants are buying mobile phones, let’s ban prepaid phones.

Oh no, someone called someone a bad word, let’s crackdown on free speech.

Oh no, a junkie bought drugs, let’s ban cash and kill drug users.

Oh no, a terrorist bought a clock with a debit card, let’s ban anonymous debit cards.

Oh no, we started wars, let’s import refugees.

Oh no, Muslims have encrypted mobile phones, let’s ban encryption.

Oh no, Russia and China are large countries that might oppose the NWO of debt, bombing Iran, illegal immigration, immorality, homosexuality, and feminism, let’s increase the military budget.

Oh no, the US has too many illegal immigrants, let’s build a wall.

Oh no, Russia is releasing propaganda, let’s ban free speech.

Oh no, Russia is hacking voting machines, let’s allow DHS to control the elections.

Oh no, the 99% are unhappy about tyranny, let’s ban protesting.

Oh no, George Washington owned slaves, let’s tear down statues.

Oh no, we started a War on Terror and a War on Drugs, let’s militarize the police.

Oh no, prostitution exists, let’s ban free speech.

Oh no, someone killed someone, let’s ban video games.

Oh no, homes are dirty, let's ban home-schooling.

Think.

19 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-28 16:54 [Del]

Oh no, someone made a comfy slow textboard, let's shit it up with /pol/ propaganda like everywhere else.

20 Name: Anonymage : 2019-02-28 23:07 [Del]

>>19
It's a bot.

21 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-01 13:14 [Del]

Strange how bots are only online 12 hours a day and take long breaks to work, rest, eat, and call friends.

22 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-01 17:51 [Del]

>>20
If it's a bot, do what's usual for dealing with bots, that is delete it, permaban its range, send the provider's abuse contact a complaint, and prepare a log for a lawsuit if they continue.

23 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-02 01:14 [Del]

Americans have gone insane.

The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state.

The default American response to the US collapse is to ignore the decay, excuse government abuse, attack the messengers who warn of the dangers of tyranny, and to blame everyone else except themselves for the decline.

Americans are ignoring the obvious collapse of the US by sticking their heads in the sand and focusing instead on bread and circuses, celebrities, sports, movies, music, alcohol, drugs, and sex.

Americans don't care about government corruption and scandals.

Americans will vehemently attack anyone who dares criticize their beloved government overlords by shouting "fake news!" or calling patriots spammers, trolls, shills, bots, racists, junkies, retards, or nutjobs and demanding that the truth-tellers be censored, banned, get IRS audits, be arrested, or be killed.

Americans quickly blame China, Russia, libtards, Bush, Obama, homosexuals, Communists, Nazis, blacks, atheists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, feminists, baby boomers, or illegal immigrants for the fall of the USA, but if Americans really want to know who is responsible, they just need to look in the mirror.

Americans say Churchill, FDR, Stalin, LBJ, Putin, Merkel, and Hitler are Jews, no one died during WWII, white people never owned slaves, Communists never killed anyone, the Bill of Rights was repealed by the Organic Act of 1872, and Freemasons control the world, but they never offer any proof. Anyone who does provide opposing evidence will be told their source is unreliable.

Americans say increasing the national debt decreases it.

Americans say food stamps are freedom.

Americans say war is peace.

Americans say tyranny is the American way.

The collapse of the US is shocking and disgusting.

How can Americans sleep at night now?

Every country has the government it deserves.

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25 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-09 16:02 [Del]

Every time the government bombs a country, bans free speech, confiscates guns, wiretaps people, seizes property, tortures, and kills people then you are responsible.

Silence means consent.

You would be naive to think that the government won't get worse or that you will never be a victim of government abuse.

26 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-16 10:08 [Del]

Americans won't fight for freedom because they only care about money, bread and circuses, celebrities, sports, movies, music, alcohol, drugs, and sex now, but maybe Americans will wish that they had resisted tyranny when they get sent to the gulags and are pushed into the ovens.

27 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-22 12:19 [Del]

Americans used to ridicule the Chinese for being too weak to resist tyranny, but now Americans have found out that they are cowards, too.

28 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-24 00:40 [Del]

The future looks black.

The US is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state now.

Churches are corrupt.

The schools are corrupt.

The media tells lies.

Medicine is dangerous.

Robots will be taking the jobs soon.

The USA is no longer a democracy. The government and the illegal aliens don't obey the law.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jimmy-carter-u-s-is-an-oligarchy-with-unlimited-political-bribery-63262/

Clapper lied to Congress and nothing happened.

The IRS targeted conservatives and nothing happened.

Clinton broke the law and nothing happened.

The CIA spied on Congress and nothing happened.

Police kill unarmed Americans with impunity.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have free speech, but free speech is illegal.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have religious freedom, but they have no religious freedom.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have gun rights, but guns are illegal.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have freedom from warrantless searches, but there is NSA wiretapping.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have freedom from seizures, but there is asset forfeiture.

The Bill of Rights say Americans have freedom from torture, but the government tortures.

Most everyone under 50 will see the US collapse in their lifetimes.

There is no hope, but do what you can to plan and prepare for the collapse.

29 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-26 04:17 [Del]

Americans are so dead and degraded now that if the US Army liquidates Fargo tomorrow, no one would even shrug.

30 Name: Anonymage : 2019-03-27 11:10 [Del]

How do Americans deal with hypocrisy today?

You might live in a warm place and own a new car listening to good music with an excellent stereo after you ate a delicious dinner and feel pretty good about living in a free country, but how does being tracked and wiretapped 24/7 feel?

Americans may feel like they are good people even when they commit three felonies a day just by existing.

How do Americans justify paying taxes when their taxes fund rising debt, Obamacare, food stamps, regulations, US wars, illegal immigrants, nanny state laws, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, chain gangs, boot camps, and Jade Helm?

Americans might feel like they live in a moral country, but how can a nation that tortures and launches endless wars take the moral high ground on anything?

How could Americans not feel responsible for US wars, debt, and tyranny?

How would the founding fathers think about the collapse of the USA?

The American default reaction to hard facts seems to be to not think and to silence those who speak the truth, but facts don't cease to exist because they are ignored.

Future generations will ask why Americans didn't resist when the US became a police state.

One thing worse than learning that you live in a police state is finding out that no one cares.

The only realistic option left for a moral American seems to be to renounce your citizenship.

31 Name: Anonymage : 2019-04-09 04:43 [Del]

The US is a bankrupt warmongering police state, but nothing will change because Americans think everything is just fine.

32 Name: Anonymage : 2019-11-07 06:47 [Del]

Was America flawless before, or was it a superdemocracy?

33 Name: Anonymage : 2019-11-18 17:59 [Del]

Americans used to believe in freedom.

http://www.naplesnews.com/story/opinion/contributors/2017/07/01/commentary-land-free-and-home-brave/427082001/

Now Americans would need to be mentally ill to think tyranny won’t get worse.

Who would have thought in 1980 that the USA would soon have curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm?

During the Wild West in the US, everyone could carry guns, businesses were not licensed, no one had Social Security numbers, there were no sales, income, or property taxes, and drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, and prostitution were legal.

There was little government, yet people lived and had freedom.

http://www.harrybrowne.com/GLO/DrugWar.htm

The government today is regulating every area of everyone’s life.

The government wants to tell us what to do, what to think, where to live, how to live, what to wear, and what to eat. Saying you live in a free country with a straight face is difficult when everything is illegal.

How can anyone take the moral high ground on anything when we are all criminals?

In the US, your body is not your body, your property is not your property, and your kid is not your kid.

Government is not the solution to problems. Government IS the problem.

Alcohol prohibition failed. The Soviet Union failed.

http://www.bradford-delong.com/2008/02/why-the-soviet.html

Anyone who supports the police state is just a tool for the elites.

Too bad Americans are surrendering liberty so easily.

Why did the USA fight for freedom against the British, Hitler, and Saddam if America just ended up as a police state? All those American soldiers died in vain.

The elites are trying to weaken and divide Americans by race, gender, handicap, penalizing hard work, encouraging welfare use, and pushing immorality while using fear, terrorism, drugs, false flags, discrimination, hate speech, Russian propaganda, and fake news laws, and wars on cash to make Americans give up their free speech rights, religious freedom, guns, right to silence, privacy, property, right to trials, freedom from torture, and the freedom from extrajudicial assassination.

https://fee.org/articles/the-growth-of-government-in-america/

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Wake up.

Think.

Pass the word.

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35 Name: Anonymage : 2019-12-19 23:42 [Del]

oh, so it looks like this is the only thread that's not locked so the faggot mod must be this homo who keeps spamming about America. I guess this whole site is probably run by the Russians. That would make sense.

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38 Name: Anonymage : 2019-12-20 06:05 [Del]

It always seems to come down to "freedom and basic human rights," but I've found those concepts to be very vague and inconcrete. They can be applied to mean just about anything. Ignoring the intangible idealisms of it all, the tangible effects of democracy are far less appealing to me. These effects are,

Democracy lacks of any form of long term planning. As soon as a new administration takes over, the plans and promises of the previous administration are abandoned. Any agreements made between the previous administration and any foreign power are also put at risk, as all parties seem to like to scrap the work of their opposition out of spite, alone. Besides being counter productive, it's also just downright insulting to other nations who find themselves betrayed by a sudden cancelling of a deal which the new administration no longer feels themselves beholden to.

Democracy is divisive. Talk to anyone who supports any party and they will gladly tell you all the reasons why they think their country would be prospering if all for the influence of their dreaded opposition. They all dream for the collapse of their opponents, but ironically, the existence of opposing political parties is the very foundation of democracy. People scream for democracy as they undermine the very system that makes it democratic.

Democracies empower the ignorant. It's sad, but true. Fact is, while we all deserve equal rights, we're not all worthy of equal responsibility. Some people are just idiots. Rather than holding morons to the same standard as the enlightened, a meritocratic system should be put in place as to empower the capable over the popular. A system such as China's.

Since democracy empowers the popular over the proficient, a lot of dangerously deluded people get into power. The separation of church and state crumbles, and superstitious nutjobs take hold of the country. Secularism can find no haven, and science becomes a political tool. Religion rules over all. Just look at the Hong Kong protestors, they're practically proclaiming divine mandate.

Considering how democracy has turned politics into a circus show and driven statecraft into the ground, I can hardly see why anyone would find it desirable. The idealisism of it is just that, idealism, and nothing more. The only people who benefit from the system are the demagogues, and I believe that it is these demagogues who have ensured that democracy is enshrined and kept sacred such that even questioning it's effectiveness has become taboo. This fear against questioning is also ironic, as the ability to freely question is one of the values upon which democracy is supposedly founded and one of the reasons why people claim it to be superior to the alternatives.

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40 Name: Anonymage : 2019-12-22 18:39 [Del]

It always seems to come down to "freedom and basic human rights," but I've found those concepts to be very vague and inconcrete. They can be applied to mean just about anything. Ignoring the intangible idealisms of it all, the tangible effects of democracy are far less appealing to me. These effects are,

Democracy lacks of any form of long term planning. As soon as a new administration takes over, the plans and promises of the previous administration are abandoned. Any agreements made between the previous administration and any foreign power are also put at risk, as all parties seem to like to scrap the work of their opposition out of spite, alone. Besides being counter productive, it's also just downright insulting to other nations who find themselves betrayed by a sudden cancelling of a deal which the new administration no longer feels themselves beholden to.

Democracy is divisive. Talk to anyone who supports any party and they will gladly tell you all the reasons why they think their country would be prospering if all for the influence of their dreaded opposition. They all dream for the collapse of their opponents, but ironically, the existence of opposing political parties is the very foundation of democracy. People scream for democracy as they undermine the very system that makes it democratic.

Democracies empower the ignorant. It's sad, but true. Fact is, while we all deserve equal rights, we're not all worthy of equal responsibility. Some people are just idiots. Rather than holding morons to the same standard as the enlightened, a meritocratic system should be put in place as to empower the capable over the popular. A system such as China's.

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61 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-07 21:42 [Del]

Americans hate freedom because Trump does, but would Americans protest if Trump restored the Bill of Rights?

62 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-09 02:46 [Del]

Good. As a golden skin I hope Amerikkka collapses so Xi can free us from their brainwashing. Gonna vote Trump and peace out to Zhong Guo and watch it crash with Beijing Duck. Get shit on, neo nazis.

63 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-09 04:32 [Del]

One of the reasons the US is collapsing now is that Americans think that decay will be stopped by becoming Fascists and Communists. Americans think the US will be improved by expanding wars, increasing the debt, and adding more tyranny when the reason the USA is crashing is because the US has wars, is in debt, and has a police state.

Americans say that they love freedom, but then they turn around and say they need the government to give them free Obamacare, build a wall, protect the US from Yemen, wiretap their phones, arrest people for feeding the homeless, stop farmers from plowing fields, force people to get rid of dogs, ban vaping, and torture suspects.

Every country has the government it deserves.

64 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-10 06:41 [Del]

Oh fuck it can't collapse any fucking sooner. Please collapse. I wake up every day wishing this shithole country would fucking collapse holy fuck. It would provide me cathartic release of a thousand orgasms. Trump is my spider's thread.

65 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-10 08:17 [Del]

Wow.

The US is now a police state where everything is illegal and Americans have no rights.

The 1% could confiscate guns and order Americans to go to the concentration camps tomorrow, but the ruling class do not have the manpower and the camps have not built yet.

The elites seem to prefer to slowly kill every possible bit of freedom.

Yesterday bump stocks were banned, today silencers will be banned, and pistols will be outlawed tomorrow.

Not only are the ruling powers determined to kill off the 99%, Americans are embracing their slavery with glee.

The media screams the USA must bomb Iran and Americans clap with delight.

The elites say debt doesn't matter and Americans agree.

Trump could decree that every American get their thumbs chopped off with machetes and Americans would jump with joy.

Have Americans ever read a history book?

Americans today could either be a zombie and willing accomplice to US wars, debt, and tyranny and remain silent, attack the government, or look for a way to escape.

What kind of life do you have now when you must lie to your wife about your plans because you're afraid the NSA will hear you on her mobile phone?

Americans need to go hardcore about resisting the police state now.

Increase your privacy and become anonymous.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/10/7-privacy-tools-essential-making-citizenfour

Use gold, cash, and barter.

Avoid taxes.

Research buying a boat, submarine, or an island.

Try to avoid security cameras, license plate readers, and redlight cameras.

Americans really should try to live like the Amish or a primitive tribe in the Amazon or Vietnam.

Once you have a SSN and a name and the government has your fingerprints and DNA, the elites know who to look for when they launch their final solution against the 99%.

Do you think the ruling class will be able kick the debt can down the road for another 2, 5, 10, or 30 years?

https://www.forgottentribes.com/blogs/lifestyle/hmong-fashion-the-people-their-history-and-their-textile-legacy

66 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-16 13:37 [Del]

so long as we can fart we are free

67 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-16 13:41 [Del]

Those who warned that the elites would try to kill off the 99% in the next 5, 10, 20, or 30 years now wonder if the ruling powers will start the liquidation this year.

The globalists just can make up an emergency like terrorism or a virus to close airports, bus stations, and train stations, close borders, start checkpoints, close off neighborhoods, shut off the Internet, and then starve people to death.

Wake up.

68 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-16 20:16 [Del]

yes trumps a retard

69 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-17 00:52 [Del]

Does anyone get the feeling that the Uniparty has been bought off by the elites?

70 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-20 09:01 [Del]

Trump promised he will kill the niggers, so I voted for him and will vote again for him

71 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-20 23:33 [Del]

One wonders how much dirt the NSA has on Trump to make him defend the police state so strongly.

72 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-21 00:59 [Del]

Trump will clean the shit stains (niggers) from America

73 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-21 01:11 [Del]

Americans think living in a socialist police state is normal, but freedom is not some textbook theory.

There are still some Americans alive today who will tell you that freedom is better.

74 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-22 14:17 [Del]

I want the niggers to die.

75 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-22 23:02 [Del]

Americans are so enslaved now that they scream anyone who loves freedom should be executed.

76 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-23 11:35 [Del]

Execute the fucking niggers, shoot them one by one

77 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-23 12:32 [Del]

Americans scream protesters must be executed, but why not get rid of the tyranny that pushes people to protest?

78 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-27 20:21 [Del]

Niggers are the tyrants, resist the niggers and set yourself free by genociding them

79 Name: Anonymage : 2020-02-28 01:44 [Del]

Americans used to fight Commies and Nazis, but now have become Commies and Nazis.

Americans scream that trade wars are good and then are stunned when prices rise and exports fall.

Americans are so batshit insane now that they demand regulations and then are shocked when prices rise and the economy dies.

When the regulations and trade wars kill the economy, Americans demand welfare and bailouts, but do not have the mental capacity to understand why taxes increase.

Americans insist there must be wars, but then Americans are surprised that wars lead to debt, refugees, tyranny, and terrorism.

Americans say Obama was an evil asshole for supporting wars, debt, and tyranny, but then turn around and say Trump is a holy god for embracing wars, debt, and the police state.

Americans want everything to be illegal, but are dumbfounded that crime increases and prisons become overcrowded.

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